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HiHoRushden&Diamonds
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Re: transfer targets.
Agreed againDukes wrote:Yes, but let us bring back Robinson and release Day's creativity further up the pitch.HiHoRushden&Diamonds wrote:AgreedDownsie53 wrote:GK
Right Winger
Left Winger
They must be our priorities surely?
A return to 4-4-2 with Osano/Miller, Prosser, Thorne, Day at the back.
Porter and Power in the middle of the park and Azza and Gash up front.
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Mad Dog
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Re: transfer targets.
Given we're creating chances at the moment, but leaking goals, I'd rather get a settled back four that isn't making errors before worrying further up the pitch. We will still have four at the back in either formation.
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Were not creating that much up front and scoring even less. But yes I agree we need to sort out the defence ...
+ the midfield ...+ attack - in fact the whole team and our approach to games.
Losing Stuart was a massive blow and this on top of Tomlin, Byrne and Terry form last season and our only decent replacement Howe, resulting in a dire lack of talent through the spine of the team.
On top of this we play this ridiculas system with no width and a management team reluctant to adapt.
We need to reassess, reorganise and play to our current squad strengths.
We need points on the board, as we are now nearer to the drop zone than the play-offs. Let's punch to our weight rather than 'punching above it'...
+ the midfield ...+ attack - in fact the whole team and our approach to games.
Losing Stuart was a massive blow and this on top of Tomlin, Byrne and Terry form last season and our only decent replacement Howe, resulting in a dire lack of talent through the spine of the team.
On top of this we play this ridiculas system with no width and a management team reluctant to adapt.
We need to reassess, reorganise and play to our current squad strengths.
We need points on the board, as we are now nearer to the drop zone than the play-offs. Let's punch to our weight rather than 'punching above it'...
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Mad Dog
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Re: transfer targets.
Against K*ttering and Altrincham we did create enought to win both games. The issue was finishing off chances rather than a formation problem. The latter two soft goals cost us anf their keeper pull off some fantastic saves towards the end. From the sounds of things, we gave away stupid goals against Eastwood.Dukes wrote:Were not creating that much up front and scoring even less. But yes I agree we need to sort out the defence ...
+ the midfield ...+ attack - in fact the whole team and our approach to games.
Losing Stuart was a massive blow and this on top of Tomlin, Byrne and Terry form last season and our only decent replacement Howe, resulting in a dire lack of talent through the spine of the team.
On top of this we play this ridiculas system with no width and a management team reluctant to adapt.
We need to reassess, reorganise and play to our current squad strengths.
We need points on the board, as we are now nearer to the drop zone than the play-offs. Let's punch to our weight rather than 'punching above it'...
You can still play 4 -3 - 3 and stretch the opposition, likewise play 4-4-2 but be as narrow as hell. It's up to the players when they go on that pitch to get the ball wide, move into space and wide areas, play the simple ball. We've been too static at times.
Certainly in all formations it is a case of finding the right combination and players and you could argue that is currently the case. But by the same token, I don't think we have the set up to play 4-4-2 nor that it will solve all our problems. Most of the division plays 4-4-2 so the arguement that teams have wised up to us playing 4-3-3 and switching to 4-4-2 will all of a sudden change this is nonsense.
I think currently we need to build from the back, stop leaking goals for starters. Once that starts happening, we may see a bit of confidence spread to the rest of the side as we're not going to have player worrying less that as we attack the other team is going to go up the end and nick one as the result of a mistake or bad defending.
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HiHoRushden&Diamonds
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Re: transfer targets.
With Gash in the side i think 4-4-2 is the answer, i think O'Connor is wasted on the wing, i believe if he played off Gash he would be more effective. If we do play 4-4-2 it means either Porter or Power dropping down to the bench as we would need somebody holding the midfield (Corcoran/Huke) From what i have seen this season i would start with Power as i think he has a touch of class in him and can produce a bit of magic.
With Ryan Charles, i think he would be more effective coming off the bench and influencing games, i would like a natural wide player, with a good cross on him to feed gash in the box. Also, Jamie Day to play left wing for me.
With Ryan Charles, i think he would be more effective coming off the bench and influencing games, i would like a natural wide player, with a good cross on him to feed gash in the box. Also, Jamie Day to play left wing for me.
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Well not to go into detail MD but in principle I agree with you that teams are built from the back 4, and hopefully the 2 new centre backs plus full backs will stabilise us there. A question mark nows exists about who the full backs should be. I for one would like Robbo recalled for LB - light back seems now to also a problem with Osano coming for increased criticism.
However, we still need to play 6 players in front of the back 4 and that is where the formation really does count. Yes there were chances in the games you mentioned and to a degree we were very unlucky at times - but most of them were from set pieces and in goal mouths full of players, clearances of the line and reaction saves from keepers.
O'Conners goal against Alty, came from a break down the right wing with Osano (I think), getting beyond the LB and critically behind the defence, and then crossing for our striker to head home. We need width and variation in our game - ball always through the middle is easy to defend unless defenders are up against players of better quality eg Tomlin/Howe. Players we no longer have - gone to higher leagues.
4-4-2 does matter because it suits our current set of players better. But yes again with you - let's start from the back but with a whole team formation in mind.
However, we still need to play 6 players in front of the back 4 and that is where the formation really does count. Yes there were chances in the games you mentioned and to a degree we were very unlucky at times - but most of them were from set pieces and in goal mouths full of players, clearances of the line and reaction saves from keepers.
O'Conners goal against Alty, came from a break down the right wing with Osano (I think), getting beyond the LB and critically behind the defence, and then crossing for our striker to head home. We need width and variation in our game - ball always through the middle is easy to defend unless defenders are up against players of better quality eg Tomlin/Howe. Players we no longer have - gone to higher leagues.
4-4-2 does matter because it suits our current set of players better. But yes again with you - let's start from the back but with a whole team formation in mind.
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Re: transfer targets.
8 times the ball went across the K*ttering line. 6 more times it was put into the box. 0 times were any of those converted.Dukes wrote:Were not creating that much up front and scoring even less. .
Creating: Yes. Scoring from: No
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Re: transfer targets.
You want our second top scorer on the bench ?
our goalscorers so far this year
azza 8
charles 7 but 2 in the hillier cup so maybe just say 5
porter 3
power 2
corcoran 2
and so on but your telling me charles and azza arnt scoring charles has scored alot of goals for the games he has started and o'connor is clinical every striker misses i think give charles a regular spot he will score, if we need to bring in anyone it has to be a big man for azza and charles to work off
our goalscorers so far this year
azza 8
charles 7 but 2 in the hillier cup so maybe just say 5
porter 3
power 2
corcoran 2
and so on but your telling me charles and azza arnt scoring charles has scored alot of goals for the games he has started and o'connor is clinical every striker misses i think give charles a regular spot he will score, if we need to bring in anyone it has to be a big man for azza and charles to work off
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Charles was good last night but - a) he is the only player we have so far to have appeared in every game this season - b) all 5 of his goals have come within 3 games and c) you could easily say that before yesterday, he was only one goal ahead of our utility man who has played half the games he has, and in a defensive position, in Corcoran.
Not saying he should be dropped but I don't think the fact he is our second top scorer is saying much.
In a 4-4-2 I would have him on the wing personally
Not saying he should be dropped but I don't think the fact he is our second top scorer is saying much.
In a 4-4-2 I would have him on the wing personally