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Re: A REAL BAD 'UN

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:14 am
by woody
Diamondsforever wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/mers ... 554011.stm

These 2 should never have been released in the first place IMO, this whole situation could have been avoided had they actually served a sentence that fitted the crime.
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Re: A REAL BAD 'UN

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:33 am
by wewantourdarbyback
woody wrote:MIRROR alleges......................

A report in the Sunday Mirror claims Venables was returned to jail "on suspicion of child porn offences".
Which is completely unethical by that shitrag of a paper. I would not be surprised to see them up in front of a judge for contempt at some point as that easily passes the test of creating 'a substantial risk of serious prejudice to the case'. And if they are hauled in front of said judge then it will only serve them right.

The right to be innocent until proven guilty is one of the most important rights we have in this country. Until he is charged with anything no one has the right to judge anyone guilty because of past crimes. If we do, we might as well allow lynch mobs.

Re: A REAL BAD 'UN

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:36 am
by rudolph_hucker
wewantourdarbyback wrote:
woody wrote:MIRROR alleges......................

A report in the Sunday Mirror claims Venables was returned to jail "on suspicion of child porn offences".
Which is completely unethical by that shitrag of a paper. I would not be surprised to see them up in front of a judge for contempt at some point as that easily passes the test of creating 'a substantial risk of serious prejudice to the case'. And if they are hauled in front of said judge then it will only serve them right.

The right to be innocent until proven guilty is one of the most important rights we have in this country. Until he is charged with anything no one has the right to judge anyone guilty because of past crimes. If we do, we might as well allow lynch mobs.

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Re: A REAL BAD 'UN

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:36 am
by woody
rudolph_hucker wrote:
wewantourdarbyback wrote:
woody wrote:MIRROR alleges......................

A report in the Sunday Mirror claims Venables was returned to jail "on suspicion of child porn offences".
Which is completely unethical by that shitrag of a paper. I would not be surprised to see them up in front of a judge for contempt at some point as that easily passes the test of creating 'a substantial risk of serious prejudice to the case'. And if they are hauled in front of said judge then it will only serve them right.

The right to be innocent until proven guilty is one of the most important rights we have in this country. Until he is charged with anything no one has the right to judge anyone guilty because of past crimes. If we do, we might as well allow lynch mobs.

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On THIS occasion - I must agree!

The Mirror has used the loophole that WE don't know his new identity so NO LIBEL LAWS + is now an adult. THIS HAS BEEN DONE TO SELL PAPERS ONLY. I too, hope the Government Legals use all their power against the paper. However................Its taken Gordon Brown off the front pages (SURPRISE SURPRISE)

Re: A REAL BAD 'UN

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:48 am
by rudolph_hucker
I didn't buy one.

Re: A REAL BAD 'UN

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 1:24 pm
by woody
rudolph_hucker wrote:I didn't buy one.
Me neither..............Read the Internet versions

Re: A REAL BAD 'UN

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 1:58 pm
by StaceyH
I can't remember the last time I actually paid money for a newspaper 8-)

Re: A REAL BAD 'UN

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:28 pm
by woody
Diamondsforever wrote:I can't remember the last time I actually paid money for a newspaper 8-)
WELL SAID................. CHIP WRAPPINGS :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: A REAL BAD 'UN

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:51 pm
by mattreddan
wewantourdarbyback wrote:guilty is one of the most important rights we have in this country. Until he is charged with anything no one has the right to judge anyone guilty because of past crimes. If we do, we might as well allow lynch mobs.
You're right that its a very important right, but this peice of scum imo has NO RIGHTS. He MURDERED a 2 year old child. Regardless of his age at the time, coupled with the fact he's BACK in prision, regardless of whatever he's done, thats enough for me to say he doesn't deserve to have any rights.

Re: A REAL BAD 'UN

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:32 pm
by woody
mattreddan wrote:
wewantourdarbyback wrote:guilty is one of the most important rights we have in this country. Until he is charged with anything no one has the right to judge anyone guilty because of past crimes. If we do, we might as well allow lynch mobs.
You're right that its a very important right, but this peice of scum imo has NO RIGHTS. He MURDERED a 2 year old child. Regardless of his age at the time, coupled with the fact he's BACK in prision, regardless of whatever he's done, thats enough for me to say he doesn't deserve to have any rights.
Whilst I agreed with D4E, RH & WWODB............... you make a very good case. - BUT if this wasn't a case concerning a two year old child, would you still think the same?

OUR freedom to be seen as innocent until PROVEN guilty is one of the most treasured freedoms we STILL have under E.U and International Law.

No doubt, if the stories ARE proven in court, this MURDERER (yes that is what he is), should never see freedom again, the key being thrown away for the good and safety of children in general.


However...........if his name (whatever it now may be) should be cleared and the Mirror be taken to task over it. (IMHO - The way that Jack Straw, Harriett Harmon and Gordon Brown are acting, tells me there must be overwhelming evidence to convict)