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It's all a case of perspective. Some posters seem to think that any player would want to come to AFCR&D and should be thankful that they have been asked.

Put yourself back in the Autumn, it's announced that AFCR&D have been given notice to quit the D&D, you are a young player who wants to play at a club where there is a possibility of developing and being part of a team that is in with a chance of promotion.

As soon as that news comes out your view changes, do you want to be part of a club that may have to drop down the leagues?

It's not as cut and dried as some people are making out.

All managers have a shelf life in football we all know that, diamondgeezer1 has it correct, don't make changes while you are still in the chase for the playoffs, assess in the summer.
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I think some people need to take off their rose tinted glasses and see the bigger picture in all of this.. First off all this talk about north and south is so irritating! Who cares where we are, at the end of the day you can only beat what's in front of you. Witton last night were well drilled, comfortable and that's why they're where they are.

Was the playoffs this season really the target? A league we had no idea the quality of the teams involved? Usually the table don't lie, for me this season it does. Looking at us in the playoffs when if people were really truthful with themselves it's not where we should be? I don't mean to say that sarcastically but based on results, home performance and efforts we should be mid table at best..

However sitting in a play off position would it be right and the correct time to get rid of "the 3 muppets". Get real people!!! Give them until the end of the season at least, but then IF we reach and win the play off final then obviously they'll be the best thing since sliced bread..

Yes and I agree we are all entitled to our own opinion but it bugs the life out of me when people only use tunnel vision!!
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Is "DiamondHunter" secretly Barry Hunter in disguise trying to get the job for himself?

Haven't been to a game since Sheffield away (which was a decent away performance and result to keep us in the play-off hunt)

When you take a step back from something you often see the bigger picture. Perhaps if I was going week in week out I would be frustrated with what was on offer on the pitch and be calling for Peaksy's head. However I'm not. So I can't really say Peaksy out or in Peaksy we trust. Basing it purely on league position however I can't see how you can get rid of him, we are in the Top 6 with the chance to still get in the play-offs in our own hand.

The way I see it is perhaps it's a myth that just by having "Rushden and Diamonds" in our name that players we desire in positions we need will come flocking to us. Thus giving us the perfect balance in the side and paving the way to promotion glory.

I see people on here moaning that the team is too direct and one dimensional, no plan B, this may well be the case. However QUALITY players who allow you to play passing football and attack with width and flair are fairly hard to come by and when we do eventually get them they leave for reasons beyond our (Andy Peaks') control. Few examples below....

Claudiu Hoban- relocated
Nic Evangelinos- relocated
Shaun Richards- to play higher level (more money)
Elliot Sandy- to play higher level (more money)
Ross Outlon- Injury prone
Dan Quigley- He is back with us but will he be here come the beginning of next season (Yo Yo player)
Jake Newman- came to us with goal scoring pedigree- was utter sh*te in a Diamonds shirt!
Jack Ashton- still with us of course but currently out, is a ball playing centre half, who also gets you goals from set pieces!

I would say all the listed players would enable us to play the attacking ruthless football that every fan wants to see, and for those of us at Concord did see. When Nic Evangelinos, Ross Oulton and Jack Ashton were all involved in one of the best halves of football I've seen any AFCR&D side play.

I hear examples of Corby Town having a Cobblers youngsters playing well for them and perhaps we could get some on work experience. Well we have had promising youngsters in the past, E.LJ and Parsons for example, both flattered to deceive. Now is that down to Andy Peaks and the coaching team, or their attitude? For every 1 really good youngster from a league club you'll likely come across 10 bang average ones! It is a lottery. Just because they are with a league club academy doesn't mean they are any good, take Danny Grainger and Jason Taylor for example from R&DFC. There are loads of these bang average players in academies just waiting to be released once they reach 18 years old and they would struggle to help our and Peaksy's cause if they signed. IMO

If we reach the play-offs and fall at the first hurdle, then I think Peaks has at least earned the right to see in the next season and oversee the move the Hayden Road.

Moving on to Hayden Road- it's not up to this leagues ground grading standard let alone Northern/Southern Prem standard. So if we were by some miracle get promoted via the Play-Offs, the club would be faced with even more off field issues to deal with. Costing more money- eating into the playing budget to enable us to bring in these wonder players that allow us to play exciting expansive football that blows opposition off the park.

Face facts people, AFCR&D is club that is 6 years old, competing at a level with well established clubs with BIGGER budgets than ourselves. We have no permanent home, no established connections with league clubs yet, no massive budget. What makes people think that Peaksy and Co are doing a bad job in those circumstances?
Do you honestly think we should be beating teams like Spalding, Witton and Basford etc and waltzing into the play-offs with ease?

If Jon Brady or the like were to come in and attract "better" players ; who by the way would want more money to come because believe it or not they wouldn't play for the love of the AFCR&D shirt like you and I would! (if we had the footballing ability) Would that likely guarantee more progression anyway?

Look at those idiots down the road, who are spending mega bucks on a side made up of ex football league players, washed up Non-League journey men and "talented" youngsters. Just look how well they are doing and how happy their fans are!

Let that be a warning to us all, that perhaps we are in a far better and more realistic position now than we actually realise. And maybe just maybe given TIME Andy Peaks will be the man to take us up. Right now at this moment- calling for his head will throw the club into more even uncertainty than we find ourselves in now!

Thanks for your time
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Dowlo wrote:Is "DiamondHunter" secretly Barry Hunter in disguise trying to get the job for himself?

Haven't been to a game since Sheffield away (which was a decent away performance and result to keep us in the play-off hunt)

When you take a step back from something you often see the bigger picture. Perhaps if I was going week in week out I would be frustrated with what was on offer on the pitch and be calling for Peaksy's head. However I'm not. So I can't really say Peaksy out or in Peaksy we trust. Basing it purely on league position however I can't see how you can get rid of him, we are in the Top 6 with the chance to still get in the play-offs in our own hand.

The way I see it is perhaps it's a myth that just by having "Rushden and Diamonds" in our name that players we desire in positions we need will come flocking to us. Thus giving us the perfect balance in the side and paving the way to promotion glory.

I see people on here moaning that the team is too direct and one dimensional, no plan B, this may well be the case. However QUALITY players who allow you to play passing football and attack with width and flair are fairly hard to come by and when we do eventually get them they leave for reasons beyond our (Andy Peaks') control. Few examples below....

Claudiu Hoban- relocated
Nic Evangelinos- relocated
Shaun Richards- to play higher level (more money)
Elliot Sandy- to play higher level (more money)
Ross Outlon- Injury prone
Dan Quigley- He is back with us but will he be here come the beginning of next season (Yo Yo player)
Jake Newman- came to us with goal scoring pedigree- was utter sh*te in a Diamonds shirt!
Jack Ashton- still with us of course but currently out, is a ball playing centre half, who also gets you goals from set pieces!

I would say all the listed players would enable us to play the attacking ruthless football that every fan wants to see, and for those of us at Concord did see. When Nic Evangelinos, Ross Oulton and Jack Ashton were all involved in one of the best halves of football I've seen any AFCR&D side play.

I hear examples of Corby Town having a Cobblers youngsters playing well for them and perhaps we could get some on work experience. Well we have had promising youngsters in the past, E.LJ and Parsons for example, both flattered to deceive. Now is that down to Andy Peaks and the coaching team, or their attitude? For every 1 really good youngster from a league club you'll likely come across 10 bang average ones! It is a lottery. Just because they are with a league club academy doesn't mean they are any good, take Danny Grainger and Jason Taylor for example from R&DFC. There are loads of these bang average players in academies just waiting to be released once they reach 18 years old and they would struggle to help our and Peaksy's cause if they signed. IMO

If we reach the play-offs and fall at the first hurdle, then I think Peaks has at least earned the right to see in the next season and oversee the move the Hayden Road.

Moving on to Hayden Road- it's not up to this leagues ground grading standard let alone Northern/Southern Prem standard. So if we were by some miracle get promoted via the Play-Offs, the club would be faced with even more off field issues to deal with. Costing more money- eating into the playing budget to enable us to bring in these wonder players that allow us to play exciting expansive football that blows opposition off the park.

Face facts people, AFCR&D is club that is 6 years old, competing at a level with well established clubs with BIGGER budgets than ourselves. We have no permanent home, no established connections with league clubs yet, no massive budget. What makes people think that Peaksy and Co are doing a bad job in those circumstances?
Do you honestly think we should be beating teams like Spalding, Witton and Basford etc and waltzing into the play-offs with ease?

If Jon Brady or the like were to come in and attract "better" players ; who by the way would want more money to come because believe it or not they wouldn't play for the love of the AFCR&D shirt like you and I would! (if we had the footballing ability) Would that likely guarantee more progression anyway?

Look at those idiots down the road, who are spending mega bucks on a side made up of ex football league players, washed up Non-League journey men and "talented" youngsters. Just look how well they are doing and how happy their fans are!

Let that be a warning to us all, that perhaps we are in a far better and more realistic position now than we actually realise. And maybe just maybe given TIME Andy Peaks will be the man to take us up. Right now at this moment- calling for his head will throw the club into more even uncertainty than we find ourselves in now!

Thanks for your time
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I for one think that anything below 5th place would be a massive underachievement, I would think that only 3 teams in the league have bigger budgets than ourselves and I would expect that they will be the top 3 this season. If I see/hear anyone saying about coming into an unknown league again I think i'll snap, what makes this league any more unknown than last seasons was, another thing that bothers me is the "it's a much tougher league" like players get much better north of the Watford gap.

Now to the squad, there's no denying that the squad is nowhere near as good as last seasons squad. Now is that down to budget? I would hope not as that was put in as a part of the price increase, if it is budget then we've got problems. Is it down to the manager and not enough contacts? Possibly but seeing as only a select amount of people seem to know who we've tried to sign we'll never know. I certainly don't subscribe to the ground issue as a part of the problem, players I don't think will think that far ahead and the only place that a possible drop in divisions has ever been mentioned is on this forum.

My biggest bugbear with peaksy however isn't even really the squad it's his game management or imo complete lack of it. If he put half as much energy into coaching and organising the team as he does at shouting at refs then he'd be brilliant but he doesn't. Another problem is again imo a lack of anything tactical coming from the bench, and when substitutes are made it's always like for like not anything to actually change the way a games going.

Now people keep on mentioning Jon Brady and I for one would love to see someone with his pedigree at our club. I understand that money may be an issue with that though. On the other hand would a management team of skippy and Collins not bring more people through the gate especially with the impending move, these people are legends of R&D and I think it would add to the club.

One final thing, if the aim/ambition this season wasn't playoffs/promotion why didn't we go out and try and build a squad/team and operate under the understanding that it was a building process with the hope of attracting and improving young players with the aim of promotion within 2/3 seasons?
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I'll add another voice to Dowlo's great post. I've viewed this season totally from the outside, not been to a game at all. I felt like with the ground issues and the moving leagues mid-table would've been the most likely outcome. So to be 6th with a decent chance of the playoffs seems great to me, pending a positive move back to Rushden.

Sometimes the football might not be amazing and all-conquering but I'm not sure what the rush is to get out of Step 4?
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So many things I want to reply to but don't know where to start!

Re: Dowlo and Bob's Bitch. I agree with much of what you're both saying. Not all, but the majority. Whilst I can't empathise with you both as I'm at 95% of the games, i'm going to suggest that viewing the season from a distance probably makes it easier to be rational as you're maybe not as emotionally attached to what's going on. Dowlo, i'm damn sure you weren't this rational when you were attending regularly :laugh: .

A fair bit of time has elapsed since the Basford game - the last one I went to - and it's given me a chance to calm down a bit as I was bloody angry after that. I don't honestly think we've got a chance of promotion this season as there's going to be at least 1 team in the play-offs that are quite comfortably better than us. I know this comment annoys people but for me this is a far tougher league than the Southern League. We didn't have a Shaw Lane, a Witton, a Spalding. We were competing with teams that are no better than Basford, Lincoln, Chasetown. There's no North Greenford, Leighton, Fleet, no guaranteed three points. We're playing against men this season, last year it seemed to be youth teams turning up most weeks. Add to this, as has been said, our starting XI is unbalanced and therefore worse. We arguably have better players in our squad but it's completely overloaded in certain areas and badly lacking in others. As a result the position we're in is probably fair although whether it has had to be this way is what's up for debate, particularly given the price increase.

I don't think anything drastic is required at the moment, as Bob' Bitch said, there isn't really any rush to get promoted. Perhaps a positive season at Step 4 next season might be a good thing with the club being back in Rushden, as opposed to a mid-table season at Step 3. I am of course assuming we will be much better next season than we have this.
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BartonRaz wrote: i'm going to suggest that viewing the season from a distance probably makes it easier to be rational as you're maybe not as emotionally attached to what's going on. Dowlo, i'm damn sure you weren't this rational when you were attending regularly :laugh: .
On that you are 100% correct. I does give you a different perspective being on the outside looking in, instead of being in the thick of it all week in week out.

This is the first season following the old and new club that I've not felt really p*ssed off if we've lost, or over the moon if we've won. It's quite a strange one really. So I suppose taking the emotion out of it allows you to see it all with a level head and almost assess the situation the club finds itself in, with regards going forward etc etc.

I would also go along with this league being harder. Looking at the SLD1C table Royston are romping away with it and are 17 points clear at the top!
Now I'm not saying they may not have invested heavily in their squad but I can't honestly believe they are that much better from the side we beat in the semi final last season. Add to that Kempston are 6th and Bedford (who we all know are rubbish) are 8th!!
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Dowlo wrote:This is the first season following the old and new club that I've not felt really p*ssed off if we've lost, or over the moon if we've won. It's quite a strange one really.
It's funny you should they that because I feel the same. I see this very much as a transition year, especially with the impending move to Hayden Road.

I always felt that a top half finish would be acceptable this season. To be challenging for play-offs is a bonus, but the poor home form is a bit unexpected, and somewhat disappointing.
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