An Impassioned Plea

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Re: An Impassioned Plea

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bozzer wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:47 am
NN10-Nige wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:34 am
Dbsl wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:03 am Over the last couple of weeks, we have seen comments about the Board
Try reading the comments? If you have read the concerns of fans you would know that your request below is unfair.

Dbsl wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:03 am There will be no point to the EGM if we spend time answering questions on why? how?
Did we used to be a well run club? - yes.
The board have navigated us into this mess - how can people learn from their mistakes if we don't address them.
If the problems are not spoken about - we will just paper over the cracks for a few months and then the same mistakes will be made again.
Can you tell me one single job in which someone can make mistakes and the company says 'lets not talk about that' 'let's not try to understand how it has happened'?

First we get Matt Ward saying 'we know we need a manager who knows this league' before delivering an under 23s manager.

Now we have a board member suggesting the EGM is not used to discuss the mistakes.

And we wonder why some people don't trust the board to run the club anymore.

It's all well and good putting your phone on for 'off the record' one-on-one chats, but you are not the only one we need answers from.

Reaching out is good, I admire you for that.
But that opens just yourself up for crtiticism... the other board members need to be as brave as you, if the board don't want to discuss the mistakes at the EGM - they should arrange a fans forum kind of thing before it to discuss them.
I trust you've picked up the phone and gone through this with Dave, rather than just plaster it on an open forum under the anonymity of a username.
Also Dave has probably been the one to stick his head over the parapet to be a single point of contact so the message getting back is consistent. It's hardly rocket science but if the Board has an idea of WHY as well as WHAT then they analyse holistically.
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Re: An Impassioned Plea

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real diamond wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:07 am Those minutes are now in the members area.
Not sure where, as I can’t see anything in the members area.

Edit; Found them on the forum
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This is a very helpful and positive initiative and thank you Dave for taking the time and trouble to engage with the fans.

i rang David this morning and aired my views. I was pleased that others had also spoken to him including some with similar issues to mine.

In conclusion, I would recommend ALL fans think about contacting Dave today so we can prepare to move forward at the forthcoming EGM.
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Re: An Impassioned Plea

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I realise after re reading my plea that the bit about the EGM was not clear.

The EGM should go through questions and answers but must also move forward in that meeting. A suggestion put forward already is to have 2 time framed sections.

Thanks to all that have contacted me so far
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Without going into major detail can anyone who has seen the notes please explain what happened with the appointment.
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fentiger79 wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:38 am Without going into major detail can anyone who has seen the notes please explain what happened with the appointment.
I don't think it's appropriate to discuss the minutes outside of the members' forum, except to say they confirm that Richard Maxwell was NOT involved in the decision making process for appointing the new manager. There were accusations on Facebook, Twitter and one or two here, that there was a conflict of interest and he'd effectively appointed himself.
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Re: An Impassioned Plea

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Thank you Dave, your efforts are greatly appreciated.

I think as a fanbase we do need a better understanding of some things that have gone on in the past, before we can start to move forward. Apportioning blame will get us nowhere, but board members do need to be held accountable for their actions and decisions. Where mistakes have been made, is it due to a lack of training/understanding of the role, too heavy a workload, people in the wrong positions etc? And what can be done to support individuals in order to prevent these being repeated?

I think it would be very useful to be able to pose questions in advance of the EGM, so that it's clear what the main areas of concern are for the fanbase as a whole. I would then expect each of the board members to be able to address the key questions individually, as I have no doubt there will be differing opinions amongst the group.

Would you be the best person to collate these questions, Dave?
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davealbon wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:02 pm
fentiger79 wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:38 am Without going into major detail can anyone who has seen the notes please explain what happened with the appointment.
I don't think it's appropriate to discuss the minutes outside of the members' forum, except to say they confirm that Richard Maxwell was NOT involved in the decision making process for appointing the new manager. There were accusations on Facebook, Twitter and one or two here, that there was a conflict of interest and he'd effectively appointed himself.
I agree to not discussing the minutes but we do need to be careful that saying that as you are not a member your opinion or money doesnt matter. Of course it would be great if everyone was a member but Joe Bloggs would like to know and we as a club need to be able to engage with the Joe Bloggs of our fanbase on what has happened. Of course the members of a fan run club are entitled to be in the know for the detail but that doesn’t mean a black out of communication to the wider fanbase. I just wanted to know if there was no other managers interested, I don’t think that’s an unfair question for anyone who is not a member.
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Response to DaveAlbon

I am already writing questions down from calls received but I really do need input as quick as possible as I am on holiday from Monday 24th for a week
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Re: An Impassioned Plea

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fentiger79 wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:53 pm
davealbon wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:02 pm
fentiger79 wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:38 am Without going into major detail can anyone who has seen the notes please explain what happened with the appointment.
I don't think it's appropriate to discuss the minutes outside of the members' forum, except to say they confirm that Richard Maxwell was NOT involved in the decision making process for appointing the new manager. There were accusations on Facebook, Twitter and one or two here, that there was a conflict of interest and he'd effectively appointed himself.
I agree to not discussing the minutes but we do need to be careful that saying that as you are not a member your opinion or money doesnt matter. Of course it would be great if everyone was a member but Joe Bloggs would like to know and we as a club need to be able to engage with the Joe Bloggs of our fanbase on what has happened. Of course the members of a fan run club are entitled to be in the know for the detail but that doesn’t mean a black out of communication to the wider fanbase. I just wanted to know if there was no other managers interested, I don’t think that’s an unfair question for anyone who is not a member.
I don't think there's any harm in disclosing publicly that yes, there was an interview process with an appropriate amount of interviewed candidates.
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