Returning to the Dog & Duck

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Totally agree Sandringham diamond, actually sounds the welly may have their own problems coming up
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Totally " off piste" but Real Bedford are also having severe difficulties with their landlord, Bedford Council.
The twitter statement from their Chairman makes Aidy a proper gent!
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I see quite a statement on this on the St Neots FB site, a lot to do with the Mayor by the looks of things
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We're not the first organisation AM has fallen out with, we won't be the last - certainly won't take it personally.

That said, to spaff nonsense for two sides of A4 and then suggest serious bridge building is needed is the height of hypocrisy. He'll calm down, he has to if he doesn't want to do R&H more damage than good.
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Rushdenjim wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 7:59 am We're not the first organisation AM has fallen out with, we won't be the last - certainly won't take it personally.

That said, to spaff nonsense for two sides of A4 and then suggest serious bridge building is needed is the height of hypocrisy. He'll calm down, he has to if he doesn't want to do R&H more damage than good.
What do R&H have to lose? What "damage" could possibly happen to R&H?
They were in the ground before AFCR&D and they'll still be in the ground if we were to leave? We need them more than they need us at the moment, like it or not.

A few people on here and on twitter may have to do some kissing and make upping come the first game back HR next season. From both sides of the fence.

Watching from the outside in a few things are pretty obvious. Alex and Rob are trying their hardest to keep the club going and being is sustainable as possible. However like those that have gone before them, they need the support of others. Before you know it, they'll both be burnt out, stepping down and the club will be scratching around for people to run it (again). It was the burn out of previous board members, that in hindsight I'd say got the club in the mess its found itself in for the last 2 season. They simply ran out of steam. Sorry to speak on their behalf, but that's just my opinion. There's only so long you can keep juggling all the things that go into running a club purely as a volunteer, before you ending up dropping a few balls.

To run a football club at a decent level and to organise stuff like a ground move etc is no easy task if it was a full time job, let alone in your spare time as a volunteer. So I think people can be forgiven if mistakes are made along the way.

Appreciate this may come across as hypocritical coming from someone, who has lost a lot of interest in the last few years, but it makes it easier to take the emotion away from the situation. Mistakes were made on both sides during this whole ground move saga I'm sure, but no one party should be chastised for it. It 2 sets of volunteers trying to do the best by each of their clubs, and I'm sure both sets of clubs will welcome more volunteers to help them run smoothly going forward.
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STAGMAN wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 6:23 pm I see quite a statement on this on the St Neots FB site, a lot to do with the Mayor by the looks of things
BBC News - Real Bedford: Council blames error after women's football ban - BBC News
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp0gg3y024zo
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Dowlo wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 9:24 am
Rushdenjim wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 7:59 am We're not the first organisation AM has fallen out with, we won't be the last - certainly won't take it personally.

That said, to spaff nonsense for two sides of A4 and then suggest serious bridge building is needed is the height of hypocrisy. He'll calm down, he has to if he doesn't want to do R&H more damage than good.
What do R&H have to lose? What "damage" could possibly happen to R&H?
They were in the ground before AFCR&D and they'll still be in the ground if we were to leave? We need them more than they need us at the moment, like it or not.

A few people on here and on twitter may have to do some kissing and make upping come the first game back HR next season. From both sides of the fence.

Watching from the outside in a few things are pretty obvious. Alex and Rob are trying their hardest to keep the club going and being is sustainable as possible. However like those that have gone before them, they need the support of others. Before you know it, they'll both be burnt out, stepping down and the club will be scratching around for people to run it (again). It was the burn out of previous board members, that in hindsight I'd say got the club in the mess its found itself in for the last 2 season. They simply ran out of steam. Sorry to speak on their behalf, but that's just my opinion. There's only so long you can keep juggling all the things that go into running a club purely as a volunteer, before you ending up dropping a few balls.

To run a football club at a decent level and to organise stuff like a ground move etc is no easy task if it was a full time job, let alone in your spare time as a volunteer. So I think people can be forgiven if mistakes are made along the way.

Appreciate this may come across as hypocritical coming from someone, who has lost a lot of interest in the last few years, but it makes it easier to take the emotion away from the situation. Mistakes were made on both sides during this whole ground move saga I'm sure, but no one party should be chastised for it. It 2 sets of volunteers trying to do the best by each of their clubs, and I'm sure both sets of clubs will welcome more volunteers to help them run smoothly going forward.
Absolutely spot on Dowlo, spot on 👏🏻
R.I.P Dale....always and forever in our hearts
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Dowlo wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 9:24 am
Rushdenjim wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 7:59 am We're not the first organisation AM has fallen out with, we won't be the last - certainly won't take it personally.

That said, to spaff nonsense for two sides of A4 and then suggest serious bridge building is needed is the height of hypocrisy. He'll calm down, he has to if he doesn't want to do R&H more damage than good.
What do R&H have to lose? What "damage" could possibly happen to R&H?
They were in the ground before AFCR&D and they'll still be in the ground if we were to leave? We need them more than they need us at the moment, like it or not.
My point is that businesses do not benefit from slagging off organisations that they do business with in public. Aidy might feel he is entitled to be pissed off with AFCR&D but statements like his only damage the business relationship that is going to have to exist for at least the next few years. That's bad for R&H as much as it is for AFCR&D.

Who needs who more is irrelevant, the lease exists as a matter of fact, and its incumbent on all parties to ensure, to the best of their abilities, that the groundshare is as successful as possible.
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Rushdenjim wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 10:16 am

My point is that businesses do not benefit from slagging off organisations that they do business with in public.
These "businesses" are you are referring to both, are football clubs run by volunteers. Yes they have to have some kind of "business plan" if you were but at the end of the day, they are just sporting clubs run by volunteers.
Would you refer to I don't know Rushden- Cricket/Badminton/Bowls Club- as a "business". They are all sports club run by volunteers, paid for and run by people who have a passion for those said clubs.
The old R&DFC was a business, it had employees and proper full time payroll it had to fulfill.

Until the model of AFCR&D is changed if/when we go up the ladder again, this expectation of people who run these clubs not to express some sort of emotion/ bias in the statements they put out is highly unrealistic. They have a passion for the clubs. Sometimes that passion spills out in statements etc.

You could argue they don't benefit from doing it, I agree, but to expect it not to happen is unrealistic in my opinion.
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The business is the clubhouse and ground run by Aide Mann. He has a lease on it that he paid for and he needs a return on his investment. I can understand his frustration but he ain't doing himself any favours airing his grievances in public, if diamonds fans boycott the clubhouse he's in a financial hole
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