Returning to the Dog & Duck

[rickthediamond]

Would you refer to I don't know Rushden- Cricket/Badminton/Bowls Club- as a "business".

I’ve agreed with a lot of what you’ve said, however this reasoning that you have put forward for AFCRD not being a ‘normal’ or ‘proper’ business is a load of crap. To relate AFCRD to the badminton or bowls club, even the cricket club, is just ridiculous. Our club, being at Step 4, and previously at Step 3, will have significantly more costs than the other sporting clubs you have related it to. The club absolutely is a business, and whilst it does not have paid members of staff per se as RDFC had, it still has a paid playing squad etc. Just because the way our club is structured means that it is run by the fans/volunteers, does not mean that the normal conventions of business do not apply. Football just cannot be likened to other sports, sorry, it’s not the same.

Rushden & Higham on the other hand, being at Step 6, are obviously likely to have considerably less costs, and I presume they have no paid players. However, as someone has pointed out above, they run the bar. They have to run the bar as a proper business, otherwise people may boycott and they will lose money on it. I’ve already considered spending considerably less in there going forwards, but I’m willing to give it some time for things to hopefully improve between the two clubs first.

[sussexdiamond]

If R&H no longer received £15k plus per season from groundshare rent and the considerable bar profits surely that would seriously affect their existence, thus we need each other.
I was all in favour of the move to D&D on financial motives but actually prefer HR as a football ground, even though my house is only 10 mins from D&D.

[Rushdenjim]

If R&H no longer received £15k plus per season from groundshare rent and the considerable bar profits surely that would seriously affect their existence, thus we need each other.
I was all in favour of the move to D&D on financial motives but actually prefer HR as a football ground, even though my house is only 10 mins from D&D.

I think the point being put forward by R&H, which is a reasonable one, is that whilst revenue rises with the groundshare, so does costs, especially around the pitch maintenance and therefore whilst turnover may be significantly higher with AFCR&D at Hayden Road, that does not translate into improved profit margins etc.

[Rushdenjim]

Would you refer to I don't know Rushden- Cricket/Badminton/Bowls Club- as a "business".

I’ve agreed with a lot of what you’ve said, however this reasoning that you have put forward for AFCRD not being a ‘normal’ or ‘proper’ business is a load of crap. To relate AFCRD to the badminton or bowls club, even the cricket club, is just ridiculous. Our club, being at Step 4, and previously at Step 3, will have significantly more costs than the other sporting clubs you have related it to. The club absolutely is a business, and whilst it does not have paid members of staff per se as RDFC had, it still has a paid playing squad etc. Just because the way our club is structured means that it is run by the fans/volunteers, does not mean that the normal conventions of business do not apply.

My use of "business" terminology isn't the salient point here. Remove business for organisation or community group and the point remains around how Aidy's statement cannot be benefical to a relationship between groups that have a contractual arrangement.

Aidy signs off his statement that serious bridge building is needed as if that isn't a two way street, and hasn't in the preceeding two pages, made that possibility considerably more difficult. I appreciate passions boil over, and Aidy is a very passionate and protective individual of all things R&H, but statements like this do not, and cannot be beneficial to any party involved.