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Re: Support our manager and team
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:56 pm
by Adrian
diamondsteve wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:16 pm
Adrian wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:08 pm
If we want a wee bit of happy balling news for this evening... well done to Alex Collard, Liam Dolman, Luke Fairlamb, TY Deacon and Andy Peaks for thrashing Bedford 8-1 at the New Eyrie today.
Unreal from Peaks team today. They are becoming title favs already . Feel sick thinking how far we’ve fallen
Agreed, I don't really see a squad full of big earners there either, I think Alex Bradley was the only one who dropped several levels to join them, he didn't play today. Peaks has done good transfer business by bringing in proven players at this level from us who we all knew that with one or two more quality players around them would have had us flying even higher last season, I think something that probably benefited Peaks a lot as a manager was his last 2 years here where we unlike the seasons before when we had squads that were guaranteed to challenge - he had to build a solid team spirit and try to get every ounce out of them, that's clearly one of his proven qualities now as well as dealing with the expectation of fans when were in the lower league... if you throw in a little bit of extra transfer budget with those qualities then you have a manager who will get them competitive at the next level.
He reminds me of Nigel Adkins and Brian McDermott, no frills, doesn't have a big ego, gets on with his job and tries to get the best of the group, I think his success here was at times undervalued, especially when we were struggling but he always turned it around, they say you don't realise what you had until it's gone - I think more people will now appreciate how well he did to get us competing at this level.
Re: Support our manager and team
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:32 pm
by Andrew
Adrian wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:56 pm
diamondsteve wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:16 pm
Adrian wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:08 pm
If we want a wee bit of happy balling news for this evening... well done to Alex Collard, Liam Dolman, Luke Fairlamb, TY Deacon and Andy Peaks for thrashing Bedford 8-1 at the New Eyrie today.
Unreal from Peaks team today. They are becoming title favs already . Feel sick thinking how far we’ve fallen
Agreed, I don't really see a squad full of big earners there either, I think Alex Bradley was the only one who dropped several levels to join them, he didn't play today. Peaks has done good transfer business by bringing in proven players at this level from us who we all knew that with one or two more quality players around them would have had us flying even higher last season, I think something that probably benefited Peaks a lot as a manager was his last 2 years here where we unlike the seasons before when we had squads that were guaranteed to challenge - he had to build a solid team spirit and try to get every ounce out of them, that's clearly one of his proven qualities now as well as dealing with the expectation of fans when were in the lower league... if you throw in a little bit of extra transfer budget with those qualities then you have a manager who will get them competitive at the next level.
He reminds me of Nigel Adkins and Brian McDermott, no frills, doesn't have a big ego, gets on with his job and tries to get the best of the group, I think his success here was at times undervalued, especially when we were struggling but he always turned it around, they say you don't realise what you had until it's gone - I think more people will now appreciate how well he did to get us competing at this level.
Peaksy knows his stuff when it comes to attracting players with the money available and creating a great team spirit, which in my opinion gets you 10 points. And he also brings in very good coaching staff which is massive.
I hope Burge, Chris and staff pull things around as they’re good people
Re: Support our manager and team
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:36 am
by AFCRD_Dan
Adrian wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:56 pm
diamondsteve wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:16 pm
Adrian wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:08 pm
If we want a wee bit of happy balling news for this evening... well done to Alex Collard, Liam Dolman, Luke Fairlamb, TY Deacon and Andy Peaks for thrashing Bedford 8-1 at the New Eyrie today.
Unreal from Peaks team today. They are becoming title favs already . Feel sick thinking how far we’ve fallen
Agreed, I don't really see a squad full of big earners there either, I think Alex Bradley was the only one who dropped several levels to join them, he didn't play today. Peaks has done good transfer business by bringing in proven players at this level from us who we all knew that with one or two more quality players around them would have had us flying even higher last season, I think something that probably benefited Peaks a lot as a manager was his last 2 years here where we unlike the seasons before when we had squads that were guaranteed to challenge - he had to build a solid team spirit and try to get every ounce out of them, that's clearly one of his proven qualities now as well as dealing with the expectation of fans when were in the lower league... if you throw in a little bit of extra transfer budget with those qualities then you have a manager who will get them competitive at the next level.
He reminds me of Nigel Adkins and Brian McDermott, no frills, doesn't have a big ego, gets on with his job and tries to get the best of the group, I think his success here was at times undervalued, especially when we were struggling but he always turned it around,
they say you don't realise what you had until it's gone - I think more people will now appreciate how well he did to get us competing at this level.
100% agree on that. I don’t like to be negative, but I think it’s showing now that we miss AP massively. Dare I say it, I’m starting to question why we didn’t go for proven management experience rather than a nostalgic appointment. I hope Burge succeeds I really do, but time will tell if that happens.
Re: Support our manager and team
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:30 am
by Jazzy_10
AFCRD_Dan wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:36 am
Dare I say it, I’m starting to question why we didn’t go for proven management experience rather than a nostalgic appointment.
I echoed these thoughts right from the off and was sent to the gallows by plenty on here.
Also don’t understand why the management team have taken so long to realise experience is needed in the team… was this not obvious from the start?
For what it’s worth I see some good individuals in the team - personally I’d like to see the central midfield structured differently. Hicks and Akubuine sit way too deep and make the transition from defence to attack way too slow. Tee is isolated a lot of the time and Ngwa and Furlong don’t get as much service on the wings as they should do. Maybe FBT solves a lot of these problems when he’s back?
Re: Support our manager and team
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:45 am
by fentiger79
Whilst I get a lot of what is being said I think we do need to take a step back and pause for a moment. Clearly we know we need a striker but it’s like we are saying the manager who has okayed professional football for many years, has been coaching up and down this country doesn’t see. That’s just crazy. Of course he sees it and I bet there has not been a day goes by where Burge isn’t trying to get one in. I tried to think who I would want to sign to fill that gap and after taking into account all the factors you are left with nobody obvious. Yes, we would like a Deacon, Graham, Smith type player but that’s going to be unlikely due to the clubs they are at and then the travel/cost/getting to training stumbling block. And just because we want someone doesn’t mean we will get them. The player may be very happy where they are, doesn’t want to travel an hour each way on a Tuesday and Thursday for training etc etc. however if Burge is able to get someone of Tee’s quality to join using his contacts I do have confidence he can get a striker over the line.
Re: Support our manager and team
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:00 pm
by Jazzy_10
fentiger79 wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:45 am
Whilst I get a lot of what is being said I think we do need to take a step back and pause for a moment. Clearly we know we need a striker but it’s like we are saying the manager who has okayed professional football for many years, has been coaching up and down this country doesn’t see. That’s just crazy. Of course he sees it and I bet there has not been a day goes by where Burge isn’t trying to get one in. I tried to think who I would want to sign to fill that gap and after taking into account all the factors you are left with nobody obvious. Yes, we would like a Deacon, Graham, Smith type player but that’s going to be unlikely due to the clubs they are at and then the travel/cost/getting to training stumbling block. And just because we want someone doesn’t mean we will get them. The player may be very happy where they are, doesn’t want to travel an hour each way on a Tuesday and Thursday for training etc etc. however if Burge is able to get someone of Tee’s quality to join using his contacts I do have confidence he can get a striker over the line.
Agree on some of this, but how long has it been since Graham left? There’s been plenty of time now, but the solution was to sign 2 really young strikers? Was he banking on one of them to start performing? There’s plenty of money to get someone in. If Stratford can bring in someone like Adam Rooney, we can definitely do the same
Re: Support our manager and team
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:18 pm
by bozzer
I just think back to last last October when it was clear that fans and indeed the board had lost confidence in Peaksy. I thought it was wrong at the time and I said so, I hope he goes on and wins this league he deserves it.
I along with others really want Burgess to succeed, he clearly wants a career in football management, to do that he will need to be successful here, he’s got a great core of young players in, we just need that some experience, clearly he knows that and the trick is finding them with the money we have to spend which is clearly not easy.
As long as we aren’t involved in a relegation fight I think he can be given the whole season to learn and evolve his team.
It’s horrible at the moment I don’t think I’ve ever seen us bottom of any table since we reformed (am sure someone will correct me though!) none of us want this we all want the current management to succeed so we’ve got to keep backing them, but we’ve got to see some changes with a couple of players coming in. The issue now is even if you put 7 days in on Monday you aren’t going to be talking to them until after the st Ives game so we’ve potentially got 2 more games, unless they are free agents or the 7 days are waived.
Re: Support our manager and team
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:23 pm
by fentiger79
Using Adam Rooney as an example it could boil down to circumstances for Stratford and it was the right fit at the right time. With any player it is, can they drive, where do they live, could they car share, will thy get to training due to their job, how much do they want, will they be available all year, where are the away games especially if they have to drive, do they fit the player I’m looking for, will thy move if an extra 50 gets offered. So much to contend with. We could sign experienced players tomorrow but if it’s not right what’s the point. Its going to take ££££ to get the right person.
Re: Support our manager and team
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 6:13 pm
by mattparker
Jazzy_10 wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:00 pm
fentiger79 wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:45 am
Whilst I get a lot of what is being said I think we do need to take a step back and pause for a moment. Clearly we know we need a striker but it’s like we are saying the manager who has okayed professional football for many years, has been coaching up and down this country doesn’t see. That’s just crazy. Of course he sees it and I bet there has not been a day goes by where Burge isn’t trying to get one in. I tried to think who I would want to sign to fill that gap and after taking into account all the factors you are left with nobody obvious. Yes, we would like a Deacon, Graham, Smith type player but that’s going to be unlikely due to the clubs they are at and then the travel/cost/getting to training stumbling block. And just because we want someone doesn’t mean we will get them. The player may be very happy where they are, doesn’t want to travel an hour each way on a Tuesday and Thursday for training etc etc. however if Burge is able to get someone of Tee’s quality to join using his contacts I do have confidence he can get a striker over the line.
Agree on some of this, but how long has it been since Graham left? There’s been plenty of time now, but the solution was to sign 2 really young strikers? Was he banking on one of them to start performing? There’s plenty of money to get someone in. If Stratford can bring in someone like Adam Rooney, we can definitely do the same
You don’t seriously think Burgess, who has worked in football all his life, isn't aware of the importance of experience in a squad?
Re: Support our manager and team
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 6:22 pm
by diamondsteve
mattparker wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 6:13 pm
Jazzy_10 wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:00 pm
fentiger79 wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:45 am
Whilst I get a lot of what is being said I think we do need to take a step back and pause for a moment. Clearly we know we need a striker but it’s like we are saying the manager who has okayed professional football for many years, has been coaching up and down this country doesn’t see. That’s just crazy. Of course he sees it and I bet there has not been a day goes by where Burge isn’t trying to get one in. I tried to think who I would want to sign to fill that gap and after taking into account all the factors you are left with nobody obvious. Yes, we would like a Deacon, Graham, Smith type player but that’s going to be unlikely due to the clubs they are at and then the travel/cost/getting to training stumbling block. And just because we want someone doesn’t mean we will get them. The player may be very happy where they are, doesn’t want to travel an hour each way on a Tuesday and Thursday for training etc etc. however if Burge is able to get someone of Tee’s quality to join using his contacts I do have confidence he can get a striker over the line.
Agree on some of this, but how long has it been since Graham left? There’s been plenty of time now, but the solution was to sign 2 really young strikers? Was he banking on one of them to start performing? There’s plenty of money to get someone in. If Stratford can bring in someone like Adam Rooney, we can definitely do the same
You don’t seriously think Burgess, who has worked in football all his life, isn't aware of the importance of experience in a squad?
Well evidence suggests….