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Phil-the-Diamond wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:04 pm
fentiger79 wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 9:38 pm I do have to say that what is concerning is that there are people who think that the appointment, the manager and the division within the fanbase is ok, acceptable, one of those things. That’s a huge concern and one that is weighing heavy on my decision to join the board and may ultimately decide against it. If we can’t fix the divide how do we move forward.
10 minutes earlier you said whatever is needed!

Agree that it needs fixing, but that doesn't always mean that everything will go your way.
I stand fully ready to give what is needed and totally accept that not everything will go my way or indeed agree on. Most fans have different opinions on who plays, which formation and so on but the fundamental integrity of our club is something that should be non negotiable and unfortunately too many fans at the moment fell like that was broken with this appointment. If and it’s a big If we dont stand by what has been explained regarding the points target and the subsequent actions of failure to achieve then I couldn’t stand as part of that due to the reason above.
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Re: [ Sat 12th Nov ] v Royston Town, KO 3pm SLPDC AWAY

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I guess Fentiger will be identifying himself should he stand for the board so that we know who to vote for. Prior to the current problems had he ever previously posted on this forum? If I were him I would not be holding my breath til RM goes. I don't agree that what Matt said at EGM is a binding condition of Maxwell tenure, and Matt is no longer a Board member. The club has circa 250 adult members but only about 20 regularly comment on this message board so where Fentiger gets the idea that 50% are against RM appointment I am not sure. Should he be appointed to the Board I hope he allows the other members to speak as he seems to want to dominate every comment on here. Needless to say he won't be counting on my vote
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sussexdiamond wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:17 pm I guess Fentiger will be identifying himself should he stand for the board so that we know who to vote for. Prior to the current problems had he ever previously posted on this forum? If I were him I would not be holding my breath til RM goes. I don't agree that what Matt said at EGM is a binding condition of Maxwell tenure, and Matt is no longer a Board member. The club has circa 250 adult members but only about 20 regularly comment on this message board so where Fentiger gets the idea that 50% are against RM appointment I am not sure. Should he be appointed to the Board I hope he allows the other members to speak as he seems to want to dominate every comment on here. Needless to say he won't be counting on my vote
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sussexdiamond wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:17 pm I guess Fentiger will be identifying himself should he stand for the board so that we know who to vote for. Prior to the current problems had he ever previously posted on this forum? If I were him I would not be holding my breath til RM goes. I don't agree that what Matt said at EGM is a binding condition of Maxwell tenure, and Matt is no longer a Board member. The club has circa 250 adult members but only about 20 regularly comment on this message board so where Fentiger gets the idea that 50% are against RM appointment I am not sure. Should he be appointed to the Board I hope he allows the other members to speak as he seems to want to dominate every comment on here. Needless to say he won't be counting on my vote
Your post is exactly what is causing this problem we are in. You are already laying the foundations to rip up what was said by the board (Matt was just doing an excellent job of conveying the agreement) and keep the manager irrespective of the agreed points target which whilst may not be legally binding was the same formula used as the reason to sack Burge (which by the way I think was the correct decision). I take it you don’t do twitter etc as you can clearly see the opinions of the fanbase hence the call for an EGM. It may seem that I dominate most topics on here lately as nobody is posting. Take a look at the reaction to the twitter posts, nothing, no comments prior to the game, hardly anything after. Attendances are falling, people are cancelling their lottery money. How much more do I need to use as evidence that people are not happy. And yes I have posted a long time before these problems arose. Like I have said before I’m no glory hunter, nearly 40 years supporting Rushden teams. I had a lot of expertise to bring, sorry it’s not wanted.
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Re: [ Sat 12th Nov ] v Royston Town, KO 3pm SLPDC AWAY

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fentiger79 wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:39 pm
sussexdiamond wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:17 pm I guess Fentiger will be identifying himself should he stand for the board so that we know who to vote for. Prior to the current problems had he ever previously posted on this forum? If I were him I would not be holding my breath til RM goes. I don't agree that what Matt said at EGM is a binding condition of Maxwell tenure, and Matt is no longer a Board member. The club has circa 250 adult members but only about 20 regularly comment on this message board so where Fentiger gets the idea that 50% are against RM appointment I am not sure. Should he be appointed to the Board I hope he allows the other members to speak as he seems to want to dominate every comment on here. Needless to say he won't be counting on my vote
Your post is exactly what is causing this problem we are in. You are already laying the foundations to rip up what was said by the board (Matt was just doing an excellent job of conveying the agreement) and keep the manager irrespective of the agreed points target which whilst may not be legally binding was the same formula used as the reason to sack Burge (which by the way I think was the correct decision). I take it you don’t do twitter etc as you can clearly see the opinions of the fanbase hence the call for an EGM. It may seem that I dominate most topics on here lately as nobody is posting. Take a look at the reaction to the twitter posts, nothing, no comments prior to the game, hardly anything after. Attendances are falling, people are cancelling their lottery money. How much more do I need to use as evidence that people are not happy. And yes I have posted a long time before these problems arose. Like I have said before I’m no glory hunter, nearly 40 years supporting Rushden teams. I had a lot of expertise to bring, sorry it’s not wanted.

Get a grip!

How many fans have you heard at the matches calling for Maxwell out? more than 5? if so many of these fans want him out why aren't they singing it loud from the stands? earlier you said you knew 8 people who didn't go, 8 people is less than 5 percent of a 300 fan base.

You make it sound like you represent the fan base and the majority of the fan base share YOUR views, total BS. There's about 10 people on Twitter at most who have called for him to be sacked, again 10 people is less than 10 percent of a 300 fan base. You don't represent the views of the majority of the fan base, whatever the result you are going to call for him to be sacked, the majority of the fan base know that without a functioning board he can't be sacked and for the same reason a new manager cannot be appointed so rather than sitting around moaning about something we cannot change we are just supporting the team, it's all we can do.

You would do well to stop thinking that posts by less than 20 people on social media represents the majority of the fan base, get along to some games and gather opinions of real fans who pay, by real fans I mean fans who know we are in a bit of a crisis but are still going to games to help keep the club running through the troubled times and trying to encourage the players. When times are hard real fans try and stick together and pull through rather than stop going to games and start being a poison mouthpiece online which seems to be driven by dislike for the manager rather than caring about the club.
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fentiger79 wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:39 pm Your post is exactly what is causing this problem we are in. You are already laying the foundations to rip up what was said by the board (Matt was just doing an excellent job of conveying the agreement) and keep the manager irrespective of the agreed points target which whilst may not be legally binding was the same formula used as the reason to sack Burge (which by the way I think was the correct decision). I take it you don’t do twitter etc as you can clearly see the opinions of the fanbase hence the call for an EGM. It may seem that I dominate most topics on here lately as nobody is posting. Take a look at the reaction to the twitter posts, nothing, no comments prior to the game, hardly anything after. Attendances are falling, people are cancelling their lottery money. How much more do I need to use as evidence that people are not happy. And yes I have posted a long time before these problems arose. Like I have said before I’m no glory hunter, nearly 40 years supporting Rushden teams. I had a lot of expertise to bring, sorry it’s not wanted.
The agreement on targets etc. was between the manager and the old board/co-chairs. It makes perfect sense for it to be reviewed by the incoming board/chairperson. It will be up to them - so it is not an absolute given that if the manager doesn't meet point targets agreed with the old board that he will be removed from the role. That's just the way it is - whether you want to believe it or not.

The discussion about calls for the manager to go while at games made me start searching for images of the Talbot Out signs (from memory just A4 pieces of paper) that I think were organised on Simon's forum back in 2000/2001 or so (couldn't find any pics). They were still at the game and still supported the team - but each to their own I guess.
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Re: [ Sat 12th Nov ] v Royston Town, KO 3pm SLPDC AWAY

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fentiger79 wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:29 pm
sussexdiamond wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:17 pm I guess Fentiger will be identifying himself should he stand for the board so that we know who to vote for. Prior to the current problems had he ever previously posted on this forum? If I were him I would not be holding my breath til RM goes. I don't agree that what Matt said at EGM is a binding condition of Maxwell tenure, and Matt is no longer a Board member. The club has circa 250 adult members but only about 20 regularly comment on this message board so where Fentiger gets the idea that 50% are against RM appointment I am not sure. Should he be appointed to the Board I hope he allows the other members to speak as he seems to want to dominate every comment on here. Needless to say he won't be counting on my vote
Thanks Sussex, I will be removing my application with immediate effect.
Really, One person gives you a bit of grief and you run for the hills, would not last five minutes on the board anyhow after the fans give you real grief after every decision you are part off gets slagged off as not good enough.

I was one of those who thought the RM appointment was shocking given what was said earlier from the Board but not for second would i have a hissy fit and withdraw my support from the team, yes the TEAM whoever managers it does not matter its the TEAM you are supposed to Support and frankly stopping monetary support is shocking as you might as well say bye bye to the team and club as it goes broke and all because you don't like a person,
again and i repeat myself as a supporter its the TEAM not individuals you support.

As for replacing the manager, its not a matter of clicking fingers and in a puff of smoke the messiah appears to lead us to the promised land (OK mid table will do) firstly the best managers will want a good budget, remuneration package etc and have we the money for that and frankly not going to games and withdrawing lottery money will make it harder to come up with the dosh for such a manager.

So carry on in a fit of pique with your comrades whilst us other will pledge our support to the Club and Team the best we can even though we may have reservations about what happened, personally it is you and a few others who are the divide in the support and that will only heal when you get down from your high horse.
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Agree with the most recent couple of posts. I think the majority of the fanbase were against the initial appointment, myself included, but personally I have made peace with that now. After all, it's now been a month or so.

I no longer feel like fentiger's view is the majority view. In fact I think the only people now openly criticising RM are people who by their own admission aren't going to games. The rest of us have seen an improvement and would happily acknowledge that.

Unfortunately fentiger, and others, are on a high horse it may be slightly embarrassing to come down from. I don't care how obscene a managerial appointment was, my support could never be dictated by who is in the dugout.
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Adrian wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 1:38 am
fentiger79 wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:39 pm
sussexdiamond wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:17 pm I guess Fentiger will be identifying himself should he stand for the board so that we know who to vote for. Prior to the current problems had he ever previously posted on this forum? If I were him I would not be holding my breath til RM goes. I don't agree that what Matt said at EGM is a binding condition of Maxwell tenure, and Matt is no longer a Board member. The club has circa 250 adult members but only about 20 regularly comment on this message board so where Fentiger gets the idea that 50% are against RM appointment I am not sure. Should he be appointed to the Board I hope he allows the other members to speak as he seems to want to dominate every comment on here. Needless to say he won't be counting on my vote
Your post is exactly what is causing this problem we are in. You are already laying the foundations to rip up what was said by the board (Matt was just doing an excellent job of conveying the agreement) and keep the manager irrespective of the agreed points target which whilst may not be legally binding was the same formula used as the reason to sack Burge (which by the way I think was the correct decision). I take it you don’t do twitter etc as you can clearly see the opinions of the fanbase hence the call for an EGM. It may seem that I dominate most topics on here lately as nobody is posting. Take a look at the reaction to the twitter posts, nothing, no comments prior to the game, hardly anything after. Attendances are falling, people are cancelling their lottery money. How much more do I need to use as evidence that people are not happy. And yes I have posted a long time before these problems arose. Like I have said before I’m no glory hunter, nearly 40 years supporting Rushden teams. I had a lot of expertise to bring, sorry it’s not wanted.

Get a grip!

How many fans have you heard at the matches calling for Maxwell out? more than 5? if so many of these fans want him out why aren't they singing it loud from the stands? earlier you said you knew 8 people who didn't go, 8 people is less than 5 percent of a 300 fan base.

You make it sound like you represent the fan base and the majority of the fan base share YOUR views, total BS. There's about 10 people on Twitter at most who have called for him to be sacked, again 10 people is less than 10 percent of a 300 fan base. You don't represent the views of the majority of the fan base, whatever the result you are going to call for him to be sacked, the majority of the fan base know that without a functioning board he can't be sacked and for the same reason a new manager cannot be appointed so rather than sitting around moaning about something we cannot change we are just supporting the team, it's all we can do.

You would do well to stop thinking that posts by less than 20 people on social media represents the majority of the fan base, get along to some games and gather opinions of real fans who pay, by real fans I mean fans who know we are in a bit of a crisis but are still going to games to help keep the club running through the troubled times and trying to encourage the players. When times are hard real fans try and stick together and pull through rather than stop going to games and start being a poison mouthpiece online which seems to be driven by dislike for the manager rather than caring about the club.
I must be mistaken, there are no fans staying away, you must be right. That’s fine, don’t take any notice of me. I appreciate you practically think those that are fools.
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Just a point. R and D FC was formed in 1992,by my maths that 30 years not 40.
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