I take grief everyday in the company I manage in. Aside from the grief I do get a lot more and that’s the thing that’s disappointing as it could have been useful. I have made clear on previous occasions that I have no issues with the manager personally and no dislike. My decisions are based purely on the way of the appointment made at the time. Just because we aren’t losing by as many is the rationale given to change all our minds and accept everything. If you are happy with 4 points from 6 games from an inexperienced manager with limited connections trying to save us from relegation when all the noise around Burge was exactly this then so be it. It’s your choice. What I would say is that the points target given can not just be changed or altered as new board members join. That was explained in detail to the fans at the EGM and was the same formula used to get rid of Burge. To change it now would be even worse than the appointment itself especially when the manager helped create the points decision. Like I have said I have no issue with the manager, if he wanted the job he should have gone away and got some experience at level 3,4,5 or even 6 to slow him to come back in a couple of years. That would be totally different and he would had we had my support.Biggles wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:29 amReally, One person gives you a bit of grief and you run for the hills, would not last five minutes on the board anyhow after the fans give you real grief after every decision you are part off gets slagged off as not good enough.fentiger79 wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:29 pmThanks Sussex, I will be removing my application with immediate effect.sussexdiamond wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:17 pm I guess Fentiger will be identifying himself should he stand for the board so that we know who to vote for. Prior to the current problems had he ever previously posted on this forum? If I were him I would not be holding my breath til RM goes. I don't agree that what Matt said at EGM is a binding condition of Maxwell tenure, and Matt is no longer a Board member. The club has circa 250 adult members but only about 20 regularly comment on this message board so where Fentiger gets the idea that 50% are against RM appointment I am not sure. Should he be appointed to the Board I hope he allows the other members to speak as he seems to want to dominate every comment on here. Needless to say he won't be counting on my vote
I was one of those who thought the RM appointment was shocking given what was said earlier from the Board but not for second would i have a hissy fit and withdraw my support from the team, yes the TEAM whoever managers it does not matter its the TEAM you are supposed to Support and frankly stopping monetary support is shocking as you might as well say bye bye to the team and club as it goes broke and all because you don't like a person,
again and i repeat myself as a supporter its the TEAM not individuals you support.
As for replacing the manager, its not a matter of clicking fingers and in a puff of smoke the messiah appears to lead us to the promised land (OK mid table will do) firstly the best managers will want a good budget, remuneration package etc and have we the money for that and frankly not going to games and withdrawing lottery money will make it harder to come up with the dosh for such a manager.
So carry on in a fit of pique with your comrades whilst us other will pledge our support to the Club and Team the best we can even though we may have reservations about what happened, personally it is you and a few others who are the divide in the support and that will only heal when you get down from your high horse.
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Your maths is correct, I did say Rushden teams.sussexdiamond wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 8:30 am Just a point. R and D FC was formed in 1992,by my maths that 30 years not 40.
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Opinions work 2 ways and although I Don't always agree with fentiger79 I would support their application to join the board. It's good to have different points of view to discuss and this place can be a bad one when people just pile on. There is much work for the new board to do so I hope to see many of you next Wednesday.
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It doesn’t bother me how many people disagree with me, everyone is entitled to their opinion just as much as me. What I would say is take yourself away from the situation and answer these three questions
Are you happy with how the recruitment process went and you think it’s the right appointment?
Are you happy with 4 points from 6 games?
Do you think the current manager will keep us up?
If you can’t answer yes to all three then we have a problem.
Are you happy with how the recruitment process went and you think it’s the right appointment?
Are you happy with 4 points from 6 games?
Do you think the current manager will keep us up?
If you can’t answer yes to all three then we have a problem.
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Rushden Town and Irthlingborough Diamonds formed Rushden & Diamonds, both had been playing for many, many years.sussexdiamond wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 8:30 am Just a point. R and D FC was formed in 1992,by my maths that 30 years not 40.
It's probably time to start facing reality. With the current management relegation is now probable rather than possible. The current management won't be replaced because the ludicrous way they were appointed means nobody with the quality of contacts and game management skills will come.
The main aim for the rest of the season should be to reunite the fan base and plan to hit the ground running next season.
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Rushden Town before that, which I believe Fentiger has previously mentioned he supported before the merger.sussexdiamond wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 8:30 am Just a point. R and D FC was formed in 1992,by my maths that 30 years not 40.
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My decisions are based purely on the way of the appointment made at the time.
Yes most would agree with you, not many were happy with how it was done,including me, that is why board members stepped down after the furor.
We can now do nothing about it and when the new board are in place they can look again at the managers position and as a new board they can actually ignore what the old board agreed with regards to points per game, the new board will make their own decisions.
You completely ignore the funding issue about the management position and as said before people not coming to home games actually will not help the finances to get a better manager.
Anyway i think the current financial squeeze is making more of an impact on gates than who the manager is, i would think spending money on football
is lower down the spending criteria than energy and food shopping are.
Yes most would agree with you, not many were happy with how it was done,including me, that is why board members stepped down after the furor.
We can now do nothing about it and when the new board are in place they can look again at the managers position and as a new board they can actually ignore what the old board agreed with regards to points per game, the new board will make their own decisions.
You completely ignore the funding issue about the management position and as said before people not coming to home games actually will not help the finances to get a better manager.
Anyway i think the current financial squeeze is making more of an impact on gates than who the manager is, i would think spending money on football
is lower down the spending criteria than energy and food shopping are.
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With a new board in place, a renewed enthusiasm and drive it will be possible to attract a new experienced manager. Let's stop looking backwards and begin to move forward. We have enough games left to rebuild for the future.SouthRushdenJFC wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 9:49 amRushden Town and Irthlingborough Diamonds formed Rushden & Diamonds, both had been playing for many, many years.sussexdiamond wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 8:30 am Just a point. R and D FC was formed in 1992,by my maths that 30 years not 40.
It's probably time to start facing reality. With the current management relegation is now probable rather than possible. The current management won't be replaced because the ludicrous way they were appointed means nobody with the quality of contacts and game management skills will come.
The main aim for the rest of the season should be to reunite the fan base and plan to hit the ground running next season.
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For me it’s not a new board, it’s new people joining the current board (unless I’m mistaken but I’m sure that was confirmed at the EGM) so the current board members are the ones who agreed on the points process. As a members run club this explanation was put to the members to explain the decision making. With many in the room on the night of the EGM in disagreement of the decision there was a sense of ok we disagree but we have the detail and the timelines of the appointment and there was a sense of let it run and we can then see where we are. If it works great, if it doesn’t then we have the points structure to support a change. Any attempt to change that then we may as well have just said it doesn’t matter what you think and the EGM was pointless. It’s not just a couple of us saying this for laughs, even John Dunham’s ET report touched on the divide it has caused. New managers bring hope and unity following poor times, not the other way around.Biggles wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:41 am My decisions are based purely on the way of the appointment made at the time.
Yes most would agree with you, not many were happy with how it was done,including me, that is why board members stepped down after the furor.
We can now do nothing about it and when the new board are in place they can look again at the managers position and as a new board they can actually ignore what the old board agreed with regards to points per game, the new board will make their own decisions.
You completely ignore the funding issue about the management position and as said before people not coming to home games actually will not help the finances to get a better manager.
Anyway i think the current financial squeeze is making more of an impact on gates than who the manager is, i would think spending money on football
is lower down the spending criteria than energy and food shopping are.