Desperate measures.....

[tech_head]

Remember when this was posted on their forum from horace

"Please don't let this event prove the ex R&D fans that they were right, nobody come to events at Nene Park, it's a waste of time and effort. Let's prove we are Poppies fans and we care more about our club."

Need i say anymore :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Biggles]

According to Mr Peake on Twitter that changes will be proposed and voted on at the Conference AGM on financial matters, no Directors loans will be allowed and all budgets must balance at the end of each season, any debt or your expelled.

I wonder if they will expect every club in the Conference Leages to be debt free prior the kick off in August 2012 :?: Maybe that what Mr Strudwick meant when he said in the ET Interview that Kettrin as of today would be ok to play in the BSN, all that could change by the end of the AGM.

[Formic]

I read the Strudwick comment in light of what went on with R&DFC. The Conference Board are very wary of making adverse comments about a club outside of a formal meeting in case they are seen as exacerbating problems - but it will surely be a key discussion at the AGM, and a review of whether an "insolvency event" has occured will be made at that time, along with an assessment of their stability / credibility.

[discodunk]

someone just posted this on poppy net
"As I understand it Rolls has set-up an agreement with an academic establishment that means the more youth players that go there, the more cash for the club. The focus will be on community coaching rather than developmental, it will be about getting as many lads into the system as possible rather than into the first team.

Quantity not quality.

Although the cash flow may help the club, thats all that he wants out of the youth system, cash. There is an expectation for kids and parents to commit financially but absolutely no commitment back from Rolls.

The 'pay to play' rumours will be popping up a lot next season for any new young face appearing in the 1st team squad.

I suspect that 99% of the current crop will still be together next season but will be wearing a different badge in Northamptonshire next year."

So basically the youth set up will support the first team!!!! Not got it the right way round has he!

i keep hearing people say how much a select few did for the youth of ktfc ,but quite frankley i am shocked at how little they did for these boys,i can honestly say during all this season i have not seen the head of youth watch any (not one)under 16 game,considering it is a major point /age in any young footballers future.yes they may have done a lot of work in the background,but most of that is phone calls,i have to say,looking back thats probabley all i remember him doing.........looking at his phone!!!!.as for NON-FUNDED ,well thets a joke ,as you have to pay 40 pounds a month!!!!!!
now you do the sums------
10 age groups(u6-u16)
10 @20 player squads equals 200 players

200 players paying 40 pound a month equals 8000 pound
8000 pound over 10 months equals 80 000 pound


i wonder where it all goes????????? but i know where it will go next season!!!!!!!!!
(ps these figures are only a guideline/fag packet maths)

[Olly]

From ploppynet:

'The Poppies club shop are holding a EVERYTHING MUST GO sale next saturday April 21st.
Loads of massive savings on all items.
Shop opens at midday before the game vs Barrow.'

They say its because they're getting rid of old stock to get new stock in over the summer, but is that really the case, I can't see them being able to afford a whole batch of new stock considering the lack of income over the summer along with the costs of running that place unless GR is putting money in, graftonpoppy on that thread seems to be the only one with any sense and hits the nail on the head, something fishy does seem to be going on there, but most of their fans seem oblivious to it and anyone who speaks sense gets shot down for being negative and then they call us bitter for saying everything might not be as it seems, they're deluded.

[Formic]

From ploppynet:

'The Poppies club shop are holding a EVERYTHING MUST GO sale next saturday April 21st.
Loads of massive savings on all items.
Shop opens at midday before the game vs Barrow.'

They say its because they're getting rid of old stock to get new stock in over the summer, but is that really the case, I can't see them being able to afford a whole batch of new stock considering the lack of income over the summer along with the costs of running that place unless GR is putting money in, graftonpoppy on that thread seems to be the only one with any sense and hits the nail on the head, something fishy does seem to be going on there, but most of their fans seem oblivious to it and anyone who speaks sense gets shot down for being negative and then they call us bitter for saying everything might not be as it seems, they're deluded.

Your last sentence hits the nail on the head - but that has been the case since they first heard they might move to Nene Park, and their refusal to take heed of any advice that was offered has cost them dearly all season - and their place in the Conference.

Even though that advice was proven correct time after time they still choose to ignore the signs we can all see, and the advice given on what resources they need to get them through the summer. Rolls is clearly taking advantage of the fact they aren't prepared to ask the difficult questions.

[nick]

What do you think it is that makes us oblivious to circumstances surrounding something we care about?

graftonpoppy on that thread seems to be the only one with any sense and hits the nail on the head, something fishy does seem to be going on there, but most of their fans seem oblivious to it and anyone who speaks sense gets shot down for being negative and then they call us bitter for saying everything might not be as it seems, they're deluded.

I mean this could very easily have been from a thread last year on this forum about Diamonds fans. Any posts about the Beasants or questioning others motives were dismissed as negative posting and told to get behind the team. And the same situation is occurring at K*ttering now as Olly says. K*ttering fans won't heed Diamonds warnings and Diamonds wouldn't listen to others about their situation. The same with the warnings of everybody about Ladak but K*ttering hung on with most defending him and following him to Nene Park. Is it just a matter of its ok to have worries or criticise yourself but when somebody outside your community criticises or points out deficiencies then you feel bound to defend it?

[ChorltonV]

Is it just a matter of its ok to have worries or criticise yourself but when somebody outside your community criticises or points out deficiencies then you feel bound to defend it?

Yes it is. But either way you're fucked.

[BartonRaz]

What do you think it is that makes us oblivious to circumstances surrounding something we care about? I mean this could very easily have been from a thread last year on this forum about Diamonds fans. Any posts about the Beasants or questioning others motives were dismissed as negative posting and told to get behind the team. And the same situation is occurring at K*ttering now as Olly says. K*ttering fans won't heed Diamonds warnings and Diamonds wouldn't listen to others about their situation. The same with the warnings of everybody about Ladak but K*ttering hung on with most defending him and following him to Nene Park. Is it just a matter of its ok to have worries or criticise yourself but when somebody outside your community criticises or points out deficiencies then you feel bound to defend it?

I do remember some negative voices on here being shot down, but we weren't really to know the impending doom. We were suspicious but not suspicious enough clearly. As it turned out some incredibly positive posters who were suckered in by the Beasants were later ridiculed perhaps unfairly.

It's not really related to your post but I don't want K*ttering to go bust in any shape of form, I want them out of Nene Park (that's another subject alltogether) but I don't want them to go bust. K*ttering have had months to work out what was going on right infront of their eyes and yet largely they have chosen to ignore it. This isn't Diamonds fans claiming to be holier than thou, we went through losing our club last summer and many of us will never forget how it was just taken away from us. We've experienced it first hand and can see what is happening at Nene Park right now.

K*ttering fans are blinded by the love of their club and there is nothing wrong with that whatsoever.

I don't agree that Diamonds fans wouldn't listen to others. As soon as Gary Calder came in with the schoolboy Liam Beasant suspicions were raised that never really went away, but anyone claiming to have known what was going to happen to Diamonds was just guessing. Diamonds fans only truly found out what was going on at a fans forum after the season had finished, when we were asked to provide £250k in 2 weeks to plug a hole that was at least £750k big, probably more like £1.5m in reality. Fans of a Premier League side would struggle to see that off, let alone a non-league club with an average home gate of around 1200, many of which were children. K*ttering have had months, maybe even a year to work out what is going to happen in the very near future, but for the record, I don't think there is anything they can do to stop it.

This is starting to sound more like a ramble so i'll stop now. ;)

[Bobos]

Good ramble, well put.

I know that a lot of Kettrin fans are hurt and angry at being relegated, but they need to see that they are in a really serious situation, that they may never recover from 8-)