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Re: A True hero for England - LOL

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:05 am
by jimbobjaw
rudolph_hucker wrote:
jimbobjaw wrote: Murray is a great player to watch, and to me, it is fantastic that he is British.
He may well be British but I'm English. I hate him for my own reasons the same way I detest Ronaldo (Portugese one). I don't see why I should be made to support someone from a different country to me just because we are joined to them. If Scotland/Wales/ played England should I support whatever team wins? I only ever support the English player in any sport. Hendry/White, Taylor/Part Button/Coulthard. That doesn't make me a racist in the slightest.
Thats fair enough, I completely understand that point of view, as I would say 90% of the Welsh.Scots and Irish go down the same line of saying they support anyone but England. I like to see the home nations win things, predominantly because as an Englishman, when we are not involved I tend to support the underdog :lol:

And as for the portuguese you mention, I think detest is a strong word, but I'm not entirely sure it demonstrates the strength of resentment I feel towards him :twisted:

Re: A True hero for England - LOL

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:24 pm
by ChorltonV
Mad Dog wrote:
Actually he's a British citizen from Scotland.
Actually he isn't. I don't believe any of us can legally be defined as British citizens. I think I'm right in saying we're all Subjects of the British Crown.

Anyway semantics aside, Murray was clearly caught off guard sharing a joke with someone who was giving him a ribbing about the Scottish football team. You can spin it however you like but he's Scottish and I wouldn't expect him to support England as I'm sure he wouldn't expect me to support Scotland. However in the context of Tennis he represents Britain, there are no English or Scottish tennis players, only British, and given that that is an umbrella definition that covers me also, he'll get my support.

I find it odd that borders are used as an excuse not to support somebody who represents you whether you like it or not. I might start following only sports stars form Northamptonshire and from now on I will withdraw support for the following,

Steve Redgrave - Buckinghamshire Wanker
Frank Bruno - London Twat
Jonny Wilkinson - Surrey Fuckwit
David Beckham - Leytonstone Carpet Muncher
Daley Thompson - Notting Hill Nob Jockey
Freddie Flintoff - Preston Prick

and anyone else not from Northants can f*** off.

Re: A True hero for England - LOL

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:50 pm
by Mad Dog
ChorltonV wrote:
Mad Dog wrote:
Actually he's a British citizen from Scotland.
Actually he isn't. I don't believe any of us can legally be defined as British citizens. I think I'm right in saying we're all Subjects of the British Crown.
I used to think it was British subjects as well, but not according to this:

http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.as ... Id=1360590

Btw, I completely agree with the rest of your arguement.

Re: A True hero for England - LOL

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:20 pm
by super noodles
I don't know what you're all on about, Murray's English!


Well he is now anyway :lol:

Re: A True hero for England - LOL

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:21 pm
by PhilM2
ChorltonV wrote:
Mad Dog wrote:
Actually he's a British citizen from Scotland.
Actually he isn't. I don't believe any of us can legally be defined as British citizens. I think I'm right in saying we're all Subjects of the British Crown.

Anyway semantics aside, Murray was clearly caught off guard sharing a joke with someone who was giving him a ribbing about the Scottish football team. You can spin it however you like but he's Scottish and I wouldn't expect him to support England as I'm sure he wouldn't expect me to support Scotland. However in the context of Tennis he represents Britain, there are no English or Scottish tennis players, only British, and given that that is an umbrella definition that covers me also, he'll get my support.

I find it odd that borders are used as an excuse not to support somebody who represents you whether you like it or not. I might start following only sports stars form Northamptonshire and from now on I will withdraw support for the following,

Steve Redgrave - Buckinghamshire Wanker
Frank Bruno - London Twat
Jonny Wilkinson - Surrey Fuckwit
David Beckham - Leytonstone Carpet Muncher
Daley Thompson - Notting Hill Nob Jockey
Freddie Flintoff - Preston Prick

and anyone else not from Northants can f*** off.
I like your thinking, but I do wonder if you are perhaps casting your net just a little too wide. You could limit your allegence to people born in Rushden. This would not include joined villages like Wimington, one has to know where to draw the line after all. :D :D :D

Re: A True hero for England - LOL

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:29 pm
by ChorltonV
PhilM2 wrote:I like your thinking, but I do wonder if you are perhaps casting your net just a little too wide. You could limit your allegence to people born in Rushden. This would not include joined villages like Wimington, one has to know where to draw the line after all. :D :D :D
I'm already covered as far as Wymington goes as that's in Bedfordshire.

However I may need also to rule out Rushden as I'm from Higham Ferrers.

Re: A True hero for England - LOL

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:42 pm
by rudolph_hucker
Since I live in Higham can I be your sporting hero? ;)